Say What? Doctor Doctor – A response to Riaad Moosa

Posted: May 20, 2011 in Say what?
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This week brings it with it another bout of madness. It was unfortunate that I had to wake up to the disappointing news of yet another attempt by a ‘professional’ to abuse Islam to further a lop-sided career.

Strong words, I know, but where do we draw the line of comedy. I’ve always enjoyed the occasional laugh but when does it border on being down-right offensive? I remember the throngs of Muslims waiting to pounce on the Danish cartoonist who himself thought the drawings of Nabi SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam was his exercising his right to freedom of speech and expression. In fact, many others thought it was funny, even hilarious BUT many Muslims weren’t chuffed at all. They succeeded in getting the Mail & Guardian to not publish the Danish cartoons.

So it really does come as a surprise when Muslims are being rather lenient with ‘comedian’ Riaad Moosa whose latest antics have landed him in hot water with the Muslim ‘extremist’ public. Moosa was featured on the Late Night News show (etv) singing a parody/rap/dance stunt in commemoration of the death of Osama Bin Laden. We pretty much couldn’t care less who he or any other individual parodied, however, if any aspect of anybody’s parody, speech,publicity stunt etc. bears even a slight link to any feature of Islam, salient or otherwise, students of the Shari’ah are obligated to not only point out any errors in such representation but to also publicly denounce these as defamatory and insulting to the Shari’ah.

We go on to reproduce some words from this publicity stunt:

“why didn’t you shave,

you could have been free,

you could have used a Gillette Mach 3”

The Shari’ah has a number of problems with such a ludicrous statement.

1. Such light-hearted reference to a salient feature of Islam i.e. the beard, is not only despicable, but can be authentically proven to be greatly disliked by Nabi Muhammed sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam. We do understand that you are trying to make people smile BUT, by insinuating that one should shun the beard in favour of freedom in a society which supposedly allows one and all to practise their religion is simply short-sighted and definitely in very bad taste.

Secondly, the beard may be seen by many to be a representative quality of Al Qaeda. Whether this is true or not, the beard is a salient feature of Islam. Parodying a person wearing the beard is to parody the Sunnah. Were we to assume that you parodied a person wearing the Niqaab, we would draw the same inference in light of the fact that the Niqaab is also a salient feature of Islam.

Let us take you on a short journey of learning.

2. Making people laugh is your own business and you may do it in whatever way you please except when making them laugh involves even a single aspect related to Islam. You claim to have been parodying Al Qaeda etc. We have no concern for Al Qaeda so you may parody them or any other organisation as much as you like. But let us pause for a moment; if you were parodying Al Qaeda only, why then the appearance of a burqa-clad person in the stunt. Have you not taken cognisance of the fact that this was the dress of the Ummahatul Mu’mineen? How then could you only link your stunt to Al Qaeda when this is in reality a piece of dressing which the Sahaabiyaat diligently adhered to.

3. Incorporating any form of music with the Sunnah dress is simply a mockery of Islam in general and the Sunnah specifically.

Hereunder is the response taken from Riaad Moosa’s website:

“My response  to the feedback of  Late Night News  Osama Song

The song was a parody on an Al Qaeda video. I accept that. That’s what I set out to do. I am sending up  Al Qaeda, albeit in a light way.

In fact, the lyrics of the song are generally sympathetic to Osama and critical of Obama. It is in no way my intention to make an association between our Beloved Nabi (SAW) and Osama bin Laden. I am concerned that people are doing this.

I did not say anything about Rasoolullah in the video and it is not my intention to do so. The Nabi (SAW) was the most perfect of people and for others put words in my mouth and associate the Nabi (SAW) with Al Qaeda is grossly incorrect and wrong.

The video is in no way a comment on religion. People are making too many jumps in association. If I do a parody song on Shrien Dewani in his wedding outfit it does not mean I am insulting Hinduism. I am parodying a Hindu guy who is accused of doing something hectic.

Much like the video. It is purely a parody on Al Qaeda. I accept full responsibility for parodying Al Qaeda. One cannot extrapolate anything more than this.

So please I ask that people don’t bring our beloved Prophet (PBUH) into this debate. I most certainly didn’t.

I will post a more detailed response video shortly Inshallah.”

“It is in no way my intention to make an association between our Beloved Nabi (SAW) and Osama bin Laden. I am concerned that people are doing this.” We find this laughable. With a beard, turban and Sunnah clothing, Osama Bin Laden imitated the Sunnah. How can you then make reference to him, his beard, the shaving off of his beard and not see the link between him and “our Beloved Nabi (SAW)”…[That’s sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam by the way].

In your own words, you mention the adjective ‘beloved’. Allow us to remind you of an Arabic couplet whose translation reads: “And the lover will always live in the obedience of the beloved”

How then does one parody an aspect so dearly loved by the ‘beloved’.

“I did not say anything about Rasoolullah in the video” – You did not need to mention Nabi SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, the Sunnah represents him. Mere sight of the Sunnah infers the lifestyle of Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam whether you or anybody else states it or not.

“associate the Nabi (SAW) with Al Qaeda”- We do not care what you have to say about Al Qaeda nor are they the sources of OUR Shari’ah. Neither have we stated them to be representatives of the Sunnah. they are human beings just like everybody else. However, we have a problem with Sunnah aspects being discussed in a parody video. Let it be known that a parody is conducted purely to make people laugh. Since when do we use the Sunnah as a platform for laughter and mockery? Should you run out of jokes and/or new material, we advise you to pick on anything other than the Shari’ah.

“The video is in no way a comment on religion.”- We have no idea how you have reached such an astounding conclusion. Can one discuss a salient feature of Islam or a number of features without such discussion being considered comment on religion. Assuming your video was not to comment, what then is a purpose of a parody?

“If I do a parody song on Shrien Dewani in his wedding outfit it does not mean I am insulting Hinduism. I am parodying a Hindu guy who is accused of doing something hectic.” – This is a ridiculous analogy. The Hindu style of dressing is not the style of dressing commanded by the Creator of the Worlds. The Hindu style of dressing in the Hindu religion is not a style which the Hindu religion emphasizes as greatly as Islam emphasizes the Sunnah style. Islam COMMANDS us to follow the Sunnah diligently. Our Sunnah is NOT a cultural dress nor is it reserved for special occasions, marriages, deaths etc. It is the way we lead our lives and it is the way upon which we can only hope to die.

For your analogy to make academic sense, you would have to prove that the Hindu religion emphasizes the Hindu style of dressing as much as the Shari’ah emphasizes the Sunnah. Shrien Dewani in no way represented the Hindu religion in his dressing. Osama Bin Laden represented the Sunnah in his way of dressing (To our readers: Kindly note that we have no interest in Osama bin Laden’s political ideology, history, innocence or lack thereof as this is not the scope of this article. We will not defend him nor do we accuse him of anything due to the fact that we personally do not know anything of his motives. We are quite well informed regarding the Sunnah though and that is what we are commenting on)

Did Shrien Dewani don the Hindu religious clothing every single day? Did he adhere to it the way we adhere to the Sunnah? No? Then it is indeed quite laughable to try and draw an analogy using him as a point of reference.

Furthermore, should you have parodied Shrien Dewani wearing the Hindu dress and if we assume that Hindus had no objection to it; this has no relevance on the issue of parodying the Sunnah. Why does the supposed Hindu reaction or lack thereof have any bearing on how the followers of the Sunnah should react?

“So please I ask that people don’t bring our beloved Prophet (PBUH) into this debate. I most certainly didn’t.” – We fail to understand how you have reached such a laughable conclusion. Let us state once more:

THE BEARD, THE TURBAN, THE BURKA, THE NIQAAB, THE SUNNAH ARE FULLY REPRESENTATIVE OF NABI SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WA SALLAM AND WILL ENDURE AS A SALIENT FEATURE OF NOT ONLY HIS MISSION BUT HIS LIFE FOR ALL ETERNITY.

By including even a single aspect of the Sunnah in a video which was made just to kill time, it is YOU who has brought Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam into the issue.  As all comedians are wont to do, you have parodied, mocked, jeered etc. at many individuals, cultures etc. throughout your career. We will once again state, we couldn’t care less who you or any other comedian mocks at, includes in their acts etc. However, if a single aspect of Islam is represented in any way other than the Pristine manner in which it should be, we WILL stand up and voice the opinion of the Shari’ah in defence of the Shari’ah.

We await your response video with great anticipation. Due to the fact that you have taken it upon yourself to step into the domain of Islamic academic discussion by making a direct reference to the Sunnah and Shar’i principles in what can only be deemed a parody of worthless taste surpassed only by ignorance of the subject matter, we request the following:

1. Valid, authentic, authoritative, academic Shar’i proof that your actions on the Late Night News show are perfectly okay in light of the Shari’ah.

2. Clear, simple academic proof that a parody involving the shaving of the beard carried out by a Muslim is permissible in Islam.

3. Valid, academic proof that mockery of the burka falls within the confines of ‘fun’ in Islam.

A simple response to the above three questions would be highly appreciated. A request to readers: We have very little time for sad and emotional rants, ‘freedom of speech’ issues, ‘light-hearted’ banter and fun, open-minded entertainment etc. If you cannot provide us with valid, academic proof justifying the actions we have mentioned, do not even bother contacting us or commenting.

Muslims draw their knowledge of Islam from authentic sources of Shari’ah. We have ample proof that the actions of Riaad Moosa on the LAte Night News show are insulting and highly derogatory, not only to Muslims but to the Sunnah as well. Any rebuttal of this article should carry with it knowledge derived from the sources of Shari’ah. Commentators, writers, actors, famous people etc. are not a proof in Shari’ah.

Sincerely,

Muslimality

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Comments
  1. Aasia says:

    Not extremist muslim public. A conservative few. you don’t have a big following. Asking him to respond respectfully while referring “to further a lop-sided career.” and you expect people to deal unemotionally. It’s silly

    • Muslimah says:

      And yet another example of emotional banter…And yes, how unfortunate that only a few see the severity in the mocking of a Sunnah. We apologise for such small numbers. It is quite strange to note that out of the entire article, you have only seen fit to mention our description of a lop-sided career. What of our mention regarding the Shar’i view on such actions? What of our request for simple, basic proof justifying such actions? Not important enough huh?

      Please tell us how the size of one’s following is indicative to one being correct or incorrect. For your information, there are Ambiyaa who will appear on the Day of Qiyaamah with not even a single follower. You flawed analogy infers that these Ambiyaa are a minority fringe group due to the fact they have few, little or no followers? We stand with the Shari’ah and Sunnah on this one. We have no care for a ‘following’ nor do we feel any need for affirmation or large crowds due to the fact that our cause is affirmed by the Shari’ah.

      Kindly provide the requested Academic proof and we will liaise further.

  2. Aasia says:

    Honestly, I why I bother, I will take my emotional self somewhere else. I asked how you can demean a man’s career and still say answer according to Shariah? I will never question Shariah and Sunnah. I question your motives. You have my email address, should you wish to contact me as a person, with a name. Then by all means. Calling yourself muslimah will not endear me to you.

    Fi ammanillah
    Go with God.

    • Muslimah says:

      We also fail to understand why exactly it is that you carry on responding when you are sorely lacking in basic, academic proof which an academic matter demands.

      We are not demeaning anybody’s career. Kindly respond to the incident of Riaad Moosa demeaning the Sunnah.
      Is his or anybody else’s career worth more than the Sunnah?

      He demeaned the Sunnah in PUBLIC and as such, his error will be pointed out in public – Simple principle of Shari’ah. We have no need to be endeared to anybody besides our Creator. Yet again, you conveniently side-step our simple request for academic proof and harp on on matters which have no bearing whatsoever on the discussion at hand. Once again, we HAVE proof from the Shari’ah for what we have stated, simply provide us with yours.

  3. Muslim says:

    Actions are judged according to intentions. What gives anyone the right to judge ? He stated his intentions and therefore who are we to question it.

    • Muslimah says:

      Actions are judged by intentions with regards to good deeds or deeds of virtue. Please explain how music, dressing as a woman, mocking the hoors, mocking the beard are examples of good deeds and we will comment further.

      Please endeavour to read the full hadeeth as well as the corresponding commentaries prior to stating it to make your case.

  4. Riaad Moosa says:

    Salaams to all

    I’ll respond to your ‘lesson’ as you put it on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis. Please note that I am not arguing with you, I am being honest about how I feel and why I do things.
    I am not qualified to respond with Shariah proof, I therefore accept with love all the ‘Valid, authentic, authoritative, academic Shariah proof’ that you brought into the discussion. I will only respond to the conclusions that you draw with honesty and a need for greater understanding.

    Muslimah says:

    This week brings it with it another bout of madness. It was unfortunate that I had to wake up to the disappointing news of yet another attempt by a ‘professional’ to abuse Islam to further a lop-sided career.

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    It was not my intention to abuse Islam. As I said, it was always my sole intention to make people laugh and relieve stress that they have on a day-to-day basis. Also, seeing as I have largely a Muslim support base, it seems ludicrous to me that I would intentionally offend my support base to further my career. That’s like saying I decided to shoot myself in the foot to cure my bunions. As far as my career being lopsided – well, then at least it resembles my huge asymmetrical nose. Have you seen the shape of that thing?

    Muslimah continues:

    Strong words, I know, but where do we draw the line of comedy. I’ve always enjoyed the occasional laugh but when does it border on being down-right offensive? I remember the throngs of Muslims waiting to pounce on the Danish cartoonist who himself thought the drawings of Nabi SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam was his exercising his right to freedom of speech and expression. In fact, many others thought it was funny, even hilarious BUT many Muslims weren’t chuffed at all. They succeeded in getting the Mail & Guardian to not publish the Danish cartoons.

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    I never mentioned the Nabi (SAW) in my video. I did not appreciate those cartoons as well, like many of our Muslim brothers and sisters.

    Muslimah continues:

    So it really does come as a surprise when Muslims are being rather lenient with ‘comedian’ Riaad Moosa whose latest antics have landed him in hot water with the Muslim ‘extremist’ public. Moosa was featured on the Late Night News show (etv) singing a parody/rap/dance stunt in commemoration of the death of Osama Bin Laden. We pretty much couldn’t care less who he or any other individual parodied, however, if any aspect of anybody’s parody, speech,publicity stunt etc. bears even a slight link to any feature of Islam, salient or otherwise, students of the Shari’ah are obligated to not only point out any errors in such representation but to also publicly denounce these as defamatory and insulting to the Shari’ah.

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    I don’t think that Muslims who are offended by my sketch are ‘extremists.’ I do however feel that, because of the sustained global persecution of Muslims, many Muslims are overtly defensive and tend to have disproportionate reactions to relatively minor problems – much like a person with post-traumatic stress disorder may startle easily in response to tiny stimuli…because of the terrible things they’ve experienced previously.
    You say that it is important to publically denounce anything thought to denounce Shariah. I accept that.
    However an alternative approach (which is also Halaal) could also involve discussing the issue with the party involved to find out the person’s intention BEFORE publically denouncing him. It’s always a good practise to try and find out what someone’s motive or intention is, as one’s action is not always meant in the way it is perceived. As you know, every action is judged by its intention.

    Muslimah says:

    We go on to reproduce some words from this publicity stunt:
    “why didn’t you shave,
    you could have been free,
    you could have used a Gillette Mach 3″
    The Shari’ah has a number of problems with such a ludicrous statement.
    1. Such light-hearted reference to a salient feature of Islam i.e. the beard, is not only despicable, but can be authentically proven to be greatly disliked by Nabi Muhammed sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam. We do understand that you are trying to make people smile BUT, by insinuating that one should shun the beard in favour of freedom in a society which supposedly allows one and all to practise their religion is simply short-sighted and definitely in very bad taste.
    Secondly, the beard may be seen by many to be a representative quality of Al Qaeda. Whether this is true or not, the beard is a salient feature of Islam. Parodying a person wearing the beard is to parody the Sunnah.

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    Firstly, I need to categorically state that anyone taking my silly rhymes seriously must have absolutely no sense of humour. Just remember these are jokes – something utilising unusual ideas and images to stimulate laughter.

    Those lines ‘why didn’t you shave, you could have been free’ are not messages to Muslim people that they should shave. It is not my amendment proposition to the Shariah. It is purely a humorous observation that Osama didn’t seem to try to disguise himself while in hiding. In my mind I’m picturing CIA agent walking past a beardless Osama because he doesn’t recognise him without the beard – hence Osama would get away. It’s just a silly funny picture. Also if Osama did shave is beard at any point to avoid capture, this in my view is not an indictment on him. He may have done so, who knows. He was on the run from the U.S. Remember, we have a very practical religion. Muslims are even allowed to eat the Haraam flesh of swine if one is starving. Are you telling me that it is Haraam to for Osama to disguise himself without a beard to avoid capture? I am not making a comment about the beard as part of the Sunnah. It’s purely a joke about an Osama disguise – and it’s funny because it is an image of Osama that is unusual. Like it’s a funny image to see Helen Zille toing toing. Like me telling you the Dalai Lama has a twitter account (true. I follow him.). It’s a funny image. I doubt many Muslim people with beards, after watching my sketch, are going, ”Let’s get the shaving gel.” Don’t make my joke more than it is.

    As far as having beard in the video goes, I just thought that if I am going to parody an Al Qaeda Internet video, I’m going to dress myself in a manner resembling them. If Osama bin Laden was a Zulu, you would have seen me in the sketch wearing leapoard skin and Simmi (i.e. the burkha person) would have been topless. (Let’s not laugh at that image, because I’m sure Zulu people would have been offended.)

    The beard is a salient feature of Islam. Yes. But the beard is also a salient feature of the Amish, the Afrikaners of Oranje, Jewish people, Sikhs, etc. etc.
    Also I need to draw your attention to the fact that Abu Lahab and Abu Jahal may have been wearing something very similar to what I was wearing in the sketch as well. The Quraysh used to bury their daughters alive. They weren’t doing this wearing jeans and t-shirts.

    Having stated the above, I would like to once again say that I was ONLY sending up AL Qaeda. It was in no way my intention to comment, albeit indirectly, on Islam or the Nabi (SAW).

    Muslimah says:

    Were we to assume that you parodied a person wearing the Niqaab, we would draw the same inference in light of the fact that the Niqaab is also a salient feature of Islam.
    Let us take you on a short journey of learning.
    2. Making people laugh is your own business and you may do it in whatever way you please except when making them laugh involves even a single aspect related to Islam. You claim to have been parodying Al Qaeda etc. We have no concern for Al Qaeda so you may parody them or any other organisation as much as you like. But let us pause for a moment; if you were parodying Al Qaeda only, why then the appearance of a burqa-clad person in the stunt. Have you not taken cognisance of the fact that this was the dress of the Ummahatul Mu’mineen? How then could you only link your stunt to Al Qaeda when this is in reality a piece of dressing which the Sahaabiyaat diligently adhered to.

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    The Nikaab was used because in the original Puff Daddy “I’ll be missing you video,” Faith Evans (the Notorious BIG’s wife) sings that part. I couldn’t have used a western female outfit to parody this section. That would have also been criticised as well, and it would have been inaccurate. We decided not to use Parda as I thought people would find that too objectifying. We therefore settled on Burka and I got brother Simmi Areff to play that part because he had the best singing voice.

    Muslimah says:

    3. Incorporating any form of music with the Sunnah dress is simply a mockery of Islam in general and the Sunnah specifically.

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    If you say ALL forms of music is Haraam, I believe that is a debatable topic. There are numerous Muslim Musicians – Zain Bhika, Sami Yusuf, Yusuf Islam, etc.etc. I am no scholar though, so I’ll accept the fact that you believe playing any form of music is a mockery. I respect your view; although, I do not share your view. Once again, I must say, I’m just being honest about what I truly believe.

    Muslimah says:

    Hereunder is the response taken from Riaad Moosa’s website:
    “My (RIAAD MOOSA) response to the feedback of Late Night News Osama Song
    The song was a parody on an Al Qaeda video. I accept that. That’s what I set out to do. I am sending up Al Qaeda, albeit in a light way.
    In fact, the lyrics of the song are generally sympathetic to Osama and critical of Obama. It is in no way my intention to make an association between our Beloved Nabi (SAW) and Osama bin Laden. I am concerned that people are doing this.
    I did not say anything about Rasoolullah in the video and it is not my intention to do so. The Nabi (SAW) was the most perfect of people and for others put words in my mouth and associate the Nabi (SAW) with Al Qaeda is grossly incorrect and wrong.
    The video is in no way a comment on religion. People are making too many jumps in association. If I do a parody song on Shrien Dewani in his wedding outfit it does not mean I am insulting Hinduism. I am parodying a Hindu guy who is accused of doing something hectic.
    Much like the video. It is purely a parody on Al Qaeda. I accept full responsibility for parodying Al Qaeda. One cannot extrapolate anything more than this.
    So please I ask that people don’t bring our beloved Prophet (PBUH) into this debate. I most certainly didn’t.
    I will post a more detailed response video shortly Inshallah.
    ”Muslimah says further:
    “It is in no way my intention to make an association between our Beloved Nabi (SAW) and Osama bin Laden. I am concerned that people are doing this.” We find this laughable.

    Riaad Responds:

    It’s nice that you find something I say laughable. Awesome…still got it.

    Muslimah says further (continuation from above quote):

    With a beard, turban and Sunnah clothing, Osama Bin Laden imitated the Sunnah. How can you then make reference to him, his beard, the shaving off of his beard and not see the link between him and “our Beloved Nabi (SAW)”…[That’s sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam by the way].

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    I think there’s a bit of miscommunication here. Obviously I see a link.
    The Al Qaeda members are Muslims after all. Of course there would be a LINK. But saying there’s a link and saying that because of that link, I’m indirectly parodying the other is not fair. There are links between many things, but it does not mean that the linked item can be interchanged with the other. If a table has four legs and an Arabian Stallion has four legs, it does not mean an Arabian Stallion is a table.

    Muslimah says:
    In your own words, you mention the adjective ‘beloved’. Allow us to remind you of an Arabic couplet whose translation reads: “And the lover will always live in the obedience of the beloved”
    How then does one parody an aspect so dearly loved by the ‘beloved’.
    “I did not say anything about Rasoolullah in the video” – You did not need to mention Nabi SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, the Sunnah represents him. Mere sight of the Sunnah infers the lifestyle of Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam whether you or anybody else states it or not.
    “associate the Nabi (SAW) with Al Qaeda”- We do not care what you have to say about Al Qaeda nor are they the sources of OUR Shari’ah. Neither have we stated them to be representatives of the Sunnah. they are human beings just like everybody else. However, we have a problem with Sunnah aspects being discussed in a parody video. Let it be known that a parody is conducted purely to make people laugh. Since when do we use the Sunnah as a platform for laughter and mockery? Should you run out of jokes and/or new material, we advise you to pick on anything other than the Shari’ah.

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    I do not understand. You are saying that if anyone is dressed like the Nabi (SAW), he is seen to indirectly be the Nabi (SAW). You say because I’m parodying Osama, I am parodying the Nabi(SAW). So, by that logic, if an uncle wearing Sunnah garb starts swearing at another uncle during Ramadaan, I cannot criticize him because if I criticize him I am indirectly criticizing the prophet because he is wearing the same outfit as the prophet. This is what I understand by your argument. Please clarify if I am mistaken.

    Muslimah says:

    “The video is in no way a comment on religion.”- We have no idea how you have reached such an astounding conclusion. Can one discuss a salient feature of Islam or a number of features without such discussion being considered comment on religion. Assuming your video was not to comment, what then is a purpose of a parody?

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    When I say that it is no way a comment on religion, I am explaining what I mean by what I am doing. It’s not a ‘conclusion’ that I have reached, I’m being honest about what I am meaning with this video. I’m saying don’t take my parody on Osama to mean anything more than a parody on Al Qaeda – Al Qaeda is not a representation of Islam. Like you said, ‘We do not care what you have to say about Al Qaeda nor are they the sources of OUR Shari’ah. Neither have we stated them to be representatives of the Sunnah. They are human beings just like everybody else. ‘

    Muslimah says:

    “If I do a parody song on Shrien Dewani in his wedding outfit it does not mean I am insulting Hinduism. I am parodying a Hindu guy who is accused of doing something hectic.” – This is a ridiculous analogy. The Hindu style of dressing is not the style of dressing commanded by the Creator of the Worlds. The Hindu style of dressing in the Hindu religion is not a style which the Hindu religion emphasizes as greatly as Islam emphasizes the Sunnah style. Islam COMMANDS us to follow the Sunnah diligently. Our Sunnah is NOT a cultural dress nor is it reserved for special occasions, marriages, deaths etc. It is the way we lead our lives and it is the way upon which we can only hope to die.
    For your analogy to make academic sense, you would have to prove that the Hindu religion emphasizes the Hindu style of dressing as much as the Shari’ah emphasizes the Sunnah. Shrien Dewani in no way represented the Hindu religion in his dressing. Osama Bin Laden represented the Sunnah in his way of dressing (To our readers: Kindly note that we have no interest in Osama bin Laden’s political ideology, history, innocence or lack thereof as this is not the scope of this article. We will not defend him nor do we accuse him of anything due to the fact that we personally do not know anything of his motives. We are quite well informed regarding the Sunnah though and that is what we are commenting on)
    Did Shrien Dewani don the Hindu religious clothing every single day? Did he adhere to it the way we adhere to the Sunnah? No? Then it is indeed quite laughable to try and draw an analogy using him as a point of reference.
    Furthermore, should you have parodied Shrien Dewani wearing the Hindu dress and if we assume that Hindus had no objection to it; this has no relevance on the issue of parodying the Sunnah. Why does the supposed Hindu reaction or lack thereof have any bearing on how the followers of the Sunnah should react?

    Riaad Moosa response:

    Thank you for explaining it to me. I feel that once again there is a bit of miscommunication here. I drew the analogy to explain that because of a LINK between things, it does not mean that you can draw any type of conclusion because of that link. I feel I dealt with that point in an earlier paragraph.

    Muslimah says:

    “So please I ask that people don’t bring our beloved Prophet (PBUH) into this debate. I most certainly didn’t.” – We fail to understand how you have reached such a laughable conclusion. Let us state once more:
    THE BEARD, THE TURBAN, THE BURKA, THE NIQAAB, THE SUNNAH ARE FULLY REPRESENTATIVE OF NABI SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WA SALLAM AND WILL ENDURE AS A SALIENT FEATURE OF NOT ONLY HIS MISSION BUT HIS LIFE FOR ALL ETERNITY.
    By including even a single aspect of the Sunnah in a video which was made just to kill time, it is YOU who has brought Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam into the issue. As all comedians are wont to do, you have parodied, mocked, jeered etc. at many individuals, cultures etc. throughout your career. We will once again state, we couldn’t care less who you or any other comedian mocks at, includes in their acts etc. However, if a single aspect of Islam is represented in any way other than the Pristine manner in which it should be, we WILL stand up and voice the opinion of the Shari’ah in defence of the Shari’ah.

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    Once again I’d like to state that I’m not ‘reaching a laughable conclusion’ as you put it. With that statement I’m just explaining that it was in no way my intention nor did I ever dream that people would say I meant to insult the Nabi (SAW).

    Muslimah says:

    We await your response video with great anticipation. Due to the fact that you have taken it upon yourself to step into the domain of Islamic academic discussion by making a direct reference to the Sunnah and Shar’i principles in what can only be deemed a parody of worthless taste surpassed only by ignorance of the subject matter, we request the following:
    1. Valid, authentic, authoritative, academic Shar’i proof that your actions on the Late Night News show are perfectly okay in light of the Shari’ah.
    2. Clear, simple academic proof that a parody involving the shaving of the beard carried out by a Muslim is permissible in Islam.
    3. Valid, academic proof that mockery of the burka falls within the confines of ‘fun’ in Islam.
    A simple response to the above three questions would be highly appreciated. A request to readers: We have very little time for sad and emotional rants, ‘freedom of speech’ issues, ‘light-hearted’ banter and fun, open-minded entertainment etc. If you cannot provide us with valid, academic proof justifying the actions we have mentioned, do not even bother contacting us or commenting.
    Muslims draw their knowledge of Islam from authentic sources of Shari’ah. We have ample proof that the actions of Riaad Moosa on the LAte Night News show are insulting and highly derogatory, not only to Muslims but to the Sunnah as well. Any rebuttal of this article should carry with it knowledge derived from the sources of Shari’ah. Commentators, writers, actors, famous people etc. are not a proof in Shari’ah.

    Sincerely,
    Muslimality

    Riaad Moosa responds:

    I am not qualified to respond with Shariah proof, I therefore accept all the ‘Valid, authentic, authoritative, academic Shariah proof’ that you brought into the discussion. It’s not necessary to add any more Shariah proof. I accept everything that you have brought with love.
    I am only responding to the conclusions that you draw with honesty and a need for greater understanding.

    My final point I’d like to state is that you aim to be defenders of the Shariah and by implication the Sunnah, yet your entire essay is steeped in arrogance, and filled with demeaning little jibes with no intention but to belittle me. It is not written with the intention to come to a greater understanding between Muslim brothers and sisters. It is written with an air of superiority with no wish to understand where I am coming from and to advise a change in my behaviour. You have made up your mind about me without even communicating with me. You claim to be defenders of the Sunnah yet your entire piece was the opposite of humility, which I believe was a cornerstone of the character of the Nabi (SAW). I don’t need to requote the numerous unnecessary arrogant statements. You know where they are. The closest to the Nabi(SAW) are those who are close to his character. I’m not going to make a judgement on you as a person, but if your personal character is similar to the character displayed in your piece, I’m not sure that you should be the ones charged with defending the Shariah. I say this with respect and a yearning to be shown otherwise.

    If you wish to – as you put it – “take me on a short journey of learning” in further notes, I welcome it.
    However, since you are the defenders of the Sunnah and Shariah, please do so in the manner worthy of the Nabi (SAW) or more specifically how you said – [That’s sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam by the way].

    May the Almighty grant us all greater understanding and learned people who are interested in actually building the Umma of the Nabi Mugammad sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, Inshallah.

    Best Regards
    Dr Riaad Moosa

  5. Omar says:

    I hope my response find all well and a little more calm, judging by the above responses. It is sad to see that we, as Muslims, still take the time out to slander and attack one another. Is it not Sunnah that we get together and discuss matters in an orderly manner? I don’t condone what Mr Moosa did, but I do feel that this matter, along with so many others, need to be dealt with in a more respectful Islamic manner.

    Some of us may not have the ideal knowledge to challenge you, but it is in no way honorable of you, to challenge another’s knowledge or lack thereof. If the person who responded did not have the necessary information then Algamdulillah.

    “We are not demeaning anybody’s career. Kindly respond to the incident of Riaad Moosa demeaning the Sunnah. Is his or anybody else’s career worth more than the Sunnah?”

    The above statement tells me that you are indeed demeaning his career. If he publicly caused harm then does it mean that we have to do the same? Funny how we can so eagerly attack another Muslim brother/sister and try to humiliate them publicly and not think of the consequences at hand.

    So the next time something crops up that we are not in agreement with, please take the time out to get together, and discuss in a more conservative manner.

    Wassalaam
    Omar

    • Muslimah says:

      Firstly, we cannot be blamed for the disinterest of others in matters of Islamic knowledge. There is no monopoly on the acquiring of knowledge. As you are probably already aware, according to the hadeeth, seeking knowledge is obligatory on every Muslim male and female. If anyone does not have sufficient knowledge on a matter, the last thing they should do is get involved with any matters pertaining to that subject matter.

      These kind of comments are perplexing in the sense that there are Muslims who do not get offended or angered when the Sunnah is referred to disparagingly. The act was not conservatively pulled off, it was done publicly and for the world to see might I add. Where is the delicate nature in that? Where is the honour in that? Where is the Islam in that? Did Islam somehow take the back seat for a good laugh?

      Isn’t it funny how we allow the Sunnah to be thrashed and mocked and jeered at so that everybody can have a good laugh and get on with their lives? Isn’t it funny when we defy Allah Ta’ala’s commands and encourage the shaving of the beard in the name of freedom? Isn’t it hilarious when a man is dressed as a woman whilst we all should be fully aware that such a person is cursed according to the hadeeth?

      Yeah the joke’s on all of us isn’t it?

  6. arebeeb5 says:

    Ag please, jokes are made about different professions, race, religion, culture politics…etc…etc.
    If you don’t like it don’t listen. You are entitled to your opinion, but as I said, if you don’t like it don’t listen. I know of many elderly muslims that
    Love listening and watching Riaads shows. *applause* to Riaad.

    • Muslimah says:

      Elderly Muslims are not a proof in the Shari’ah. Muslims do not take their religion from just anybody. These people are not Ma’soom nor are they our God, nor are they of the Ambiyaa alayhimus salaam nor are they any illustrious Fuqahaa, Sahaabah radhiAllahu anhum, Khulafa- e – Rashideen radhiAllahu anhum etc.

      As for your joke comment, we direct your attention to this aayaah of the Qur’aan, perhaps you may have missed it?

      And if you ask them, they will say,
      “We were just chatting and having
      fun.” Say, “Is it of Allah and His
      verses and His Messenger that you
      were making fun?”Make no excuses. You became
      disbelievers (by mocking at Allah and
      His Messenger) after you had
      professed Faith. – Al Qur’aan

      فليقولوا ما يقولوا انت من ارجو رضاه

  7. saadiqah says:

    Aslaamu Alaiykom

    I read the comment posted by Aasia..and I don’t think she needs a reply from muslimah. I think she needs to attend some madrassah classes.

  8. Nas Who says:

    Ah, my fellow Muslims. Always lacking in a sense of humour and skewing things toward conflict. As if ours is a religion adhered to by nitpicking old women who seek out opportunities to bicker about every little thing that occurs in the world which might upset our sensitive constitution.

    How can you claim academic superiority when your own arguments fail to acknowledge an analogy based on pure conjecture and assumption? Are you really claiming that Osama bin Laden, a man who proudly claimed to have murdered thousands of innocent people, is representing our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) simply because of the way he dressed and his beard? His beard which, from what we’ve seen, did not look the way the Muslim’s beard is supposed to according to the Sunnah law you keep bringing up anyway?

    I do not see Riaad Moosa’s parody video as anything but a humorous discussion on Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. These are the last people I feel represent either Islam or Muhammad (SAW). Please show us your academic proof that the video somehow damages the image of the Prophet or the concept of the Sunnah any more than any ignorant, biased thing you say here?

    • Muslimah says:

      We have done this sufficiently: Read Part 2

      You are advised to approach the books of Tafseer on this aayaah. Perhaps after gaining some knowledge of a few incidents in the time of the Prophet SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WA SALLAM, you may better understand our reaction:

      And if you ask them, they will say,
      “We were just chatting and having
      fun.” Say, “Is it of Allah and His
      verses and His Messenger that you
      were making fun?”Make no excuses. You became
      disbelievers (by mocking at Allah and
      His Messenger) after you had
      professed Faith. – Al Qur’aan

      A hadeeth regarding the importance of the beard. You are free to disprove the validity of this hadeeth by examining the chain of narrators as well as the various commentaries by a number of Muhadditheen. Your inferences would not matter much in this regard:

      When the two messengers of Kisra (Khusru – the Persian King) came to Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, they had long moustaches and shaved beards. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam turned his face away in disgust and asked them, ‘Who commanded you to do this (despicable deed)?’ They replied, ‘Our Lord, (i.e. King)’ At this, Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam mentioned, ‘But my Lord has commanded me to lengthen my beard and shorten my moustache.’ (Tabaqaat ibn Sa’ad vol.1 pg.147; Taareekh Tabari vol.2 pg.267-266; Bidaaya wan Nihaaya)

      فليقولوا ما يقولوا انت من ارجو رضاه

  9. Tayyiba says:

    I mean no disrespect when I ask: do you have to be so combative? You say you do not want an emotional response- I don’t know how that is possible because you continuously try to rile the reader. I agree with what you’re saying, but there’s no reason to attack anyone. I hope I get notified when someone else adds to this post…

  10. Hamish Hoosen Pillay says:

    There is Sunnah that requires Muslims to not criticise each other in public. Treat each other with kindness. This post and your tonality is nothing but an cheap online gimmick to generate followers and readership. If you are that concerned I would have suggested confronting the comedian directly not this poorly veiled attempt to humiliate him in public. Irrespective of either of your claims, it is hardly Islamic to publilcally humiliate another Muslim unless of course it is personal which judging by your syntax it obviously is.

    This fighting between Muslims or very ugly criticism of Muslims in public is nothing but a sign of the communities we come from – jealousy and a lack of proper understanding and comprehension of the Sunnah. We can throw apparently relevant terms around but it means nothing when comments are less than Islamic from a sight purporting to represent Muslims. And yes this will erroneously represent Muslims.

    Speak to Riaad Moosa privately if you have a real concern, but I suspect you don’t. Its all about getting traffic and proving a point. Maybe you should take a leaf out of the Sunnah, yes?

    • Muslimah says:

      There is FARDH which requires Muslims to NOT jest with regard to the Sunnah either in public or in private. There is obligation to publicly address a slur against the Shari’ah if the act was committed publicly.

      We are not in need of any online gimmicks or followers as stats do not excite us as much as they do others. There are Ambiyaa who will appear on the Day of Qiyaamah with no followers. We have no need nor concern for any followers. The comedian would have been contacted directly if his actions were conducted in private. On the contrary, his actions were conducted for half the population to witness.

      We speak with the opinion of the Shari’ah. Kindly forget the emotional rantings as we have adequately explained that public acts against the Shari’ah will be responded to publicly and supply us with simple, academic proof that our actions are contrary to Shari’ah. Not only will we remove the article but issue and unconditional apology as well.

      We have no need to be jealous of anybody but we do contest you assertion that improper understanding of the Sunnah has led to a response like ours. Once again, let’s forget the social issues, psychological analysis etc. and PLEASE SUPPLY US WITH SIMPLE EVIDENCE PROVING WE ARE WRONG.

      It is strange to note that there are thousands who seek to inform us of the Sunnah methodology, yet sadly that is where they stop. We are practically begging readers who have a problem with our article to clearly explain to us what they perceive to be the Sunnah in such a situation with academic substantiation.

      We see no reason why you should stand up to defend him. Nonetheless, if you are so hell-bent on speaking ‘privately’, kindly advise him that he had the opportunity to privately consult with any of a number of scholars in South Africa prior to airing his sketch. Does not logic demand that a person consult on delicate issues prior to committing them? Had he contacted any scholarly body or individual prior to the show, he would not have been in the situation he is now. Yet all and sundry are quick to point out that after mocking the Sunnah openly, he should be corrected in private? One fails to see such logic in this argument of private speaking.

      We will speak the truth even though it may be bitter. Kindly explain which leaf in particular you are referring to from the Sunnah. At the same time, do also supply us with basic,academic proof from the same Sunnah which you so passionately now make mention of indicating to us the manner in which public, intentional, mockery of the Sunnah is to be addressed.

  11. Imraan says:

    Look I am in no condoning what Mr riaad Moosa said. whether it is wrong or right… It is not up to the muslimah or any other person to decide it is only up to the the almighty Allah.

    What I would however like to point out, is discussions like this divide the ummah. The enemies of Islam are waging massive wars on our women and children yet we sit here bickerin amongst ourselves.

    • Muslimah says:

      We agree wholeheartedly with you, it is not up to us to decide who is right and who is wrong. It is up to Allah Ta’ala to decide. We have presented the opinion of the Shari’ah on this issue. Kindly explain how this qualifies as the Muslimality team judging what is right and what is wrong!

      It is not our obligation to unite the Ummah as you perceive. Our obligation is to preserve the teachings of the Shari’ah. The Ummah will see unity under the leadership of the Mahdi and Isa alayhis salaam.

  12. Abduraheem says:

    Assalaamu alaykum.

    I feel compelled to comment because I happened to appreciate the parody for what I think it was meant to represent.

    Firstly, a comment on academic discourse. Academic process demands that relevant sources be used to substantiate coherent arguments. While the sources are beyond fallacy, I think the arguments derived therefrom are not. The response by Mr.Moosa is sufficient in pointing out these incompatibilities.

    The parody was funny. If you are familiar with popular rap culture, as the target audience would be, it is easy to appreciate the witty associations. But more important than the humour, I think the parody did substantial good for the Muslim image in broader South African society. Let me elaborate.

    The sketch showed a recognisably Muslim comedian parodying the very image that the predominantly “west” has associated with Islam. In so doing, it poses questions to the “western” mind about who really represents the more accurate view of Islam. If you believe that AlQaeda is the more accurate, then academically, your credibility is somewhat diminished. Mr.Moosa has managed to distance mainstream Islam from the extremist element that is represented in the parody to the public.

    Of course there were elements in the parody that were borderline offensive. For example, the burka wearing man diminished the the gap between Alqaeda and mainstream Islam, since no videos from AlQaeda feature any women. Also, it looked ridiculous, and making a woman dressing honourably look ridiculous when women are associated more with mainstream Islam than the caves of Afghanistan, is regretable. I do, however, feel that the public apology rendered by Mr.Moosa is sufficient to draw from the spirit of mercy, forgiveness and tolerance that us Muslims are meant to exemplify.

    Personally, I do not feel the actions of Mr.Moosa warranted such an unmerciful, intolerant response. I do not believe the parody attacked the Sunnah of our most beloved, most perfect Nabi Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him. But I do believe that it could have been more carefully considered by its creators.

    Wallahu A’lam, God knows best.

    • Muslimah says:

      You are free to point out the academic inconsistencies and we will gladly remedy the errors.

      We are not familiar with popular rap culture and by the inference of many ahadeeth, no Muslim would be either. We are not concerned with the Muslim image in South Africa or any other part of the world. The Shari’ah commands us to stand in defence of Shari’ah and not the image of Muslims. Kindly tell me how the image of Muslims is enhanced in the sight of Allah Ta’ala when shaving of the beard is taken lightheartedly, a man dresses as a woman (a person who is cursed in the hadeeth) and the term ’72 virgins’ being bandied about in what can only be jest.

      We have no concern regarding the world’s image regarding Al Qaeda nor do we know anybody personally who is a member of Al Qaeda. According to what the media portrays to many people, members of Al Qaeda dress according to the Sunnah. We have little concern for who may parody Al Qaeda. We have concern when the SUNNAH is brought into such parodies or such stunts. Do you understand the difference?

      We have taken note of your opinion as well as your belief regarding the parody but we are forced once again to reiterate that the opinion of the creation means nothing unless it is in accordance with the opinion of the Creator. And the opinion of the Creator is deduced from the sources of Shari’ah.

  13. a r modak says:

    This is the “spin-off” of a society steeped in modernism—to the extent that banter such as the comedic episodes spewed by the doctor are tolerated—–so hats off to whoever hasdared to challenge the medico.
    It is a also a measure of our passion for Nabi-e-Aqram (blessings be upon him) that evokes such reactions to a man who has commercialised his comic act, even at the expense of demeaning his (and our) beautiful deen.

  14. riaz says:

    Muslimah
    U sound very sarcastic in your responses. Please adjust your attitude if u want people to take you guys seriously.show some respect to people please.

    • Muslimah says:

      We don’t need people to take us seriously nor do we really care whether they take us seriously or not. Every Muslim is, however duty-bound to take the Shari’ah seriously! You seem to forget that we are not promoting OUR ideology, we are outlining the ideology of the Shari’ah

  15. farha says:

    i dint actually see the video but don’t u think maybe this has gone to far?

    e.g. ” Incorporating any form of music with the Sunnah dress is simply a mockery of Islam in general and the Sunnah specifically.”

    if u thought this was a mockery to Islam, then why wer u as a muslim even watching tv?!

    u CANNOT control other peoples actions but you can use them as learning material, to become a better person/muslim.

    PS: the beard it wajib not sunnat.

    • Muslimah says:

      Any action, command or saying in mockery, jest or pointing towards a flippant attitude of the Sunnah IS what is being taken too far.

      Please explain where we have stated that we have WATCHED tv. Secondly, if you cannot provide us with a clear statement by ourselves that we have watched TV, your statement is mere slander and we would be wasting our time even beginning to respond to it.

      Our duty is to convey and we have chosen to convey together with academic proof. It would benefit the Ummah if you could do the same.

      Since you bring up the issue of the beard being Wajib and NOT Sunnah, we have a simple question before we comment further: Is the beard not Sunnah at all? You may speak to Sh Irshaad regarding this issue.

  16. Faiyaz says:

    Salaam

    WHILE I FULLY RESPECT YOUR POINT THAT THE THE BEARD, THE TURBAN, THE BURKA, THE NIQAAB, THE SUNNAH ARE FULLY REPRESENTATIVE OF NABI SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WA SALLAM, WHAT WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER AND BE MINDFUL OF IS THAT WE WILL NEVER BE IN ANY POSITION TO JUDGE ANOTHER MUSLIM BROTHER, THE ONLY JUDGE OF A MANS CHARACTER DEEDS AND INTENTIONS IS THE ALMIGHTY.

    MAY ALLAH GUIDE ONE AND ALL

    JAZAKALLAH

    • Muslimah says:

      We are stating the judgment which the Shari’ah has passed. Should there be any problem understand the judgment of the Shari’ah, please let us know and we will gladly address the issue.

  17. Dara says:

    Muslimah, ur argument is for a Sunnah, not Fard (obligatory) aspect of Islam. May I ask what your qualifications are 2 write such a defamatory article, with the intent to condemn & humiliate a fellow muslim, for all public 2 see, and this before speaking 2 the ‘accused’? In Islam, this is highly frowned upon, and highlights a limited unda-standing of Shariah, and also a lack of hiqmah, unfortunately. What you have done was infact in essence a much GREATER offence in Shariah, for doing or saying anything ‘bad’ publically regarding another’s ‘business’ or means of income, without just cause or having consulted the ‘accused’ party, (comedy, being Riaad’s income), is a vile act, and strictly forbidden.

    • Muslimah says:

      We beg to differ with your opinion on what Islam frowns upon. An act committed in public will be address publicly. We have no qualifications nor do we need them. We speak with the proof of the Shari’ah. Once again, if you have Shar’i proof which clearly proves that our proofs provided are totally incorrect or contrary to Shari’ah, please provide us with such proofs. Kindly provide us with proof of your statement and we will comment further.

  18. I wonder what the Muslim people of SA would say if the “Danish guy “also make a video like the one Riaad Moosa did…we The muslim Comunity must seriously take a long Look at our selves and ask our selves where did we go wrong that we started making our own rules that is convenient for us to live like MODERN Muslims .If we can do our best in our ability in this” Westernised Modern World “understand ,Live the way the Quran teaches us.We must do our best and reach in our hearts for answeres of what is wrong and what is right.And i am sure if we have Imaan with in our Hearts we will do the right thing and not be ashamed of being Branded “Old fashion & Medi evil ways of thinking”as i was so many times told by my own Young Relatives .. who are Idolising all these Modern day way of Socailising”Music”Movies”Internet”Dressing”

    • Muslimah says:

      We simply request of every Muslims to first study Islam and then to explain their ‘opinions’ of Shar’i matters. To date, Muslimality has NOT received a single shred of academic proof for anybody’s statements. All that we have received are individuals expressing their emotional issues, rants and raves about thinking out of the box, ‘things’ people have ‘heard’ from some scholar somewhere, statements people have read on forums, blogs etc. All we ask is for simple, Shar’i proof.

  19. michael says:

    After seeing a tweet like this one, http://twitter.com/#!/RiaadMoosa/status/16901063844036608 , this latest mockery of Islam comes as no surprise.

  20. gasan says:

    Salaam,hope every one is in good health inshaa Allah..I understand the point you are making,I respect that and according to your sources you are right..BUT we know he didn’t mean it in that way,and the woman is correct by concealing somebodies faults…second if he dressed up like Osama there can’t be anything wrong..his just imitating and we all know America made Osama up its a myth..but Shukr for your information Salaam…

  21. gasan says:

    Salaam again I just wanto inform you where he states about the virgins and all America and they don’t believe in that and he is stating it as the truth…as we believe that…America wants us to shave n not be muslim and he is stating that and mocking America..please look at the Good in it and not just the fualts…shukr for your intellectual points and your research about the shariah..your mind has been made up and won’t change regarding the facts you have given all our comments are falling on death ears as you counter attack everybody…we can’t negotiate on sunnah and fard I agree with you full heartedly..but as I say the image was to make indirectly fun of america to criticise America..Even if he had to do it with a suit and tie it wouldn’t have gotten the comic message over..this message and reply is sent not to hurt any feelings Shukr

    • Muslimah says:

      “And if you ask them, they will say,
      “We were just chatting and having
      fun.” Say, “Is it of Allah and His
      verses and His Messenger that you
      were making fun?”Make no excuses. You became
      disbelievers (by mocking at Allah and
      His Messenger) after you had
      professed Faith.” – Surah 9, Verse 66-65

      “When the two messengers of Kisra (Khusru – the Persian King) came to Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, they had long moustaches and shaved beards. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam turned his face away in disgust and asked them, ‘Who commanded you to do this (despicable deed)?’ They replied, ‘Our Lord, (i.e. King)’ At this, Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam mentioned, ‘But my Lord has commanded me to lengthen my beard and shorten my moustache.’ (Tabaqaat ibn Sa’ad vol.1 pg.147; Taareekh Tabari vol.2 pg.267-266; Bidaaya wan Nihaaya)”

      Now we will ask for your opinion after reading the aforementioned aayah and hadeeth. What is the status of the person who commands a person (any person) to remove his beard in the name of freedom or as part of jest? Is that person going against the command of Allah Ta’ala as stated by Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam in the hadeeth? According to the Qur’aan, what you may see as a jest is not seen as such by Allah Ta’ala. I would advise you not to speak on issues you have no knowledge of.

      What of the man who imitates a woman? Are you aware that such a man is cursed in the hadeeth? Or does this not apply in this situation as it was only ‘jest’?