Say What? Doctor Doctor (Part 2 – Once upon a Parody)

Posted: May 21, 2011 in Say what?
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The good doctor, Mr Riaad Moosa has posted a response for the team here at Muslimality over on his website and Facebook page. The first thing to catch my eye when reading his piece was this line or admission asit were:

“I am not qualified to respond with Shariah proof,…”

I have quoted this to illustrate a very important aspect of Islam which many Muslims have taken for granted. You see, when you get to that point, a response of any sort should immediately cease. You are admitting that you have NO knowledge of your subject matter and yet, unbelievably you still would like people to read your ‘opinion’ (albeit a very ill-informed one by your own admission). I do not care for the intricacies of medical science. I have no qualifications in that field. Naturally, I respect whatever a professor’s opinion is on the impact of new cancer medication on a patient suffering from cancer purely because he is QUALIFIED to speak or comment on such matters.

So whether you’re a doctor or a lawyer or a chartered accountant, your opinion and your feelings matter very little in the field of Islamic academics. You could sing from the rooftops proclaiming the benefits of drinking wine or eating pork and a thousand other Muslims could support you and practise it themselves but numbers and opinions without valid, authentic Shar’i proof mean absolutely nothing really.

The necessity to mention this situation is indicative of the fact of the growing number of Muslims who resort to ‘winging – it’ when it comes to Islamic matters because they happen to read or hear somewhere that ‘Islam is easy’. It is quite unfortunate that we now have hoards of Muslims screaming ‘over-sensitivity’ when the reaction to a mockery of the Sunnah is harsh.

This is also indicative of the growing trend to take our religion from some of the most ridiculous sources. For example, Moosa mentions in his response the example of Maher Zain, Yusuf Islam etc.to illustrate that music may be permissible. For the newer generation, this may as well suffice as ‘proof’. But has it honestly come to this? We begin taking religion from laymen? Have we stopped looking at the four sources of Shari’ah? So we disregard the four sources of Shari’ah simply because there are people alive today whose actions somehow count as a proof in Shari’ah that music is permissible?

These people are not out Prophets, they are not illustrious Fuqahaa, they are not Sahaabah, they are not acting with Divine guidance. Their actions, words, opinions or comments are not and cannot be used as a proof in the Shari’ah. More of that later…

As you know, every action is judged by its intention.

It has become common to quote ahaadeeth when it suits us. Therefore, we have decided to devote as much of this article as possible to relay all the necessary ahaadeeth affecting this situation. It is unfortunate that many have read only that part of the hadeeth which you cite and now use it as a scapegoat for their actions. Do allow yourself to read the commentary to that hadeeth prior to citing it as an example for your actions.

You say that it is important to publically denounce anything thought to denounce Shariah. I accept that.

Great. Now that you accept that that is important, we can move on in this rebuttal. However, we would just like to make a few things clear. The Sunnah makes up the Shari’ah. It is one of the four sources of Shari’ah. A beard as described in the ahadeeth is a Sunnah, therefore that beard as described in the Sunnah is a part of the Shari’ah. Therefore keeping a beard as described in the Sunnah is both part of the Shari’ah and part of the Sunnah. You may consult any Aalim or Mufti to explain to you the many ahaadeeth available on the beard, the description of the beard etc. Time permitting, I will make all those ahadeeth available to you. You may find the views of Fuqaaha and the four Imaams in any authentic works of Fiqh. The most authentic and fully explanatory being those written in Arabic.

Again, we will reiterate (it seems from your response you have not adequately understood our explanation),we do not care whom you decide to parody. What was disturbing about your parody was the fact that you had chosen to relay an idea, movement or thought to the public, whether Muslim or non-Muslim i.e. that the beard should have or could have been removed in the name of freedom.

After so much persecution faced by our Muslim brothers in countries where they are not allowed to wear beards, your comment (through song, jest, mockery, parody etc. is STILL a comment nonetheless) that the shaving off of the beard will lead to freedom is done in poor taste. Would you consider acting out a parody for our sisters in France to remove the Niqaab in the name of freedom? Whether or not you used Osama bin Laden makes no difference to us. We really couldn’t care less but it was the words that you used and the message put across to the public which was highly offensive to followers of the Sunnah.

There are Muslims in this world who would die for the right to be able to practise Islam fully; Muslims who stick so dearly to the Sunnah that they defy governments and laws to be able to do this and in that they have found freedom but you claim freedom in the absence of the beard? What kind of message are you sending to the masses? Like I said, defending Osama bin Laden is not the aim, defending the Sunnah is. We are not concerned with his actions, his decisions, his innocence or lack thereof. We are concerned with the way in which you took an aspect of Osama bin Laden (i.e. his wearing of the beard) and relayed the absence of such an aspect amounting to freedom. Do you understand the difference? It is a very BIG difference.

Obviously you would have had to research your subject matter prior to writing those three lines, which you may have done but not sufficiently.

Muslims are overtly defensive and tend to have disproportionate reactions to relatively minor problems

These minor problems you speak of may be ‘minor’ to you but you have chosen to forget the thousands of Muslims who do not see the mocking, the degradation and flippancy of the beard as ‘minor’. This flippant attitude towards the Sunnah has become commonplace amongst many Muslims and such parodies only serve to fuel that sort of ideology. If you were to devote some time to learning about the Sunnah, you would probably see for yourself the importance of the Sunnah in the life of a Muslim.

There is a clear hadeeth which states:  When the two messengers of Kisra (Khusru – the Persian King) came to Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, they had long moustaches and shaved beards. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam turned his face away in disgust and asked them, ‘Who commanded you to do this (despicable deed)?’ They replied, ‘Our Lord, (i.e. King)’ At this, Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam mentioned, ‘But my Lord has commanded me to lengthen my beard and shorten my moustache.’ (Tabaqaat ibn Sa’ad vol.1 pg.147; Taareekh Tabari vol.2 pg.267-266; Bidaaya wan Nihaaya)

So a person who encourages somebody (even though he may have passed away), in your opinion and after reading the above hadeeth, what is the status of such a person according to the hadeeth? Is he/she a person who commands others what his/her Lord has commanded otherwise? Remember that Rasulullah sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam chose to turn his face away in disgust of NON-BELIEVERS, so what of Muslims then?

Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam said, “Adhere compulsorily to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of my rightly -guided Khulafa.” There are numerous examples which may be cited to illustrate the Sunnah of the rightly-guided Khulafa. If the Sunnah of the rightly-guided Khulafa was to wear a beard (and it was), how can you sing in your parody ‘advising’ Osama to shave it!?! Where is the disconnection from the Sunnah? Where is the connection to Al Qaeda? The beard is a part of the Sunnah of Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam and if you agree that Osama bin Laden was, in fact, a Muslim then how can you advise a Muslim to shun the Sunnah in exchange for ‘freedom’?

Every aspect and sphere of the Sunnah is conservative and it is this holy conservatism which influences Muslims who are keen to lead a life under the Umbrella of the Sunnah. Our Qur’aan is traditional, our Sunnah is traditional, the Sahaabah radhiAllahu anhum whom we revere are conservative. In fact, their conservatism was such that once Hadhrat Hasan Basri (rahmatullah alayh), reprimanding his disciples, said:

“If you had to see the Sahaabah, you will brand them as madmen and if they had to see you, they would have branded you as kaafir.”

We take great offense to the mockery and flippancy of the Sunnah. That is the way of the Muslim. In the hadeeth it states, “Whoever amongst you sees anything objectionable, let him change it with his hand, if he is not able, then with his tongue, and if he is not even able to do so, then with his heart, and the latter is the weakest form of faith.”

Firstly, I need to categorically state that anyone taking my silly rhymes seriously must have absolutely no sense of humour. Just remember these are jokes

Islam has never stated that laughter is haraam. Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam preferred smiling to laughter but would jest with children nonetheless. The problem arises when a joke, jest or unusual idea/image is a direct mockery of the Sunnah. The Sunnah is what Muslims do and should hold dear to them. If a non-Muslim mocks the Sunnah, it is understandable. He does not know any better, he does not possess Imaan in his heart. What of the Muslim? The one who should hold on tightly to the Sunnah? Should we be mocking the Sunnah? Should we be treating the Sunnah with such flippancy? It’s all in the name of harmless fun right? A joke is a mockery is a degradation and in this case is a degradation of the Sunnah.

It is downright offensive when (as a joke) you imitate a man clothed in Sunnah attire with a Sunnah beard dancing to music. The Prophet sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam warned against dancing and singing. Your parody is acted out by you. Wearing of Sunnah attire and engaging in dancing and singing for the sole purposes of entertainment is directly in contradiction to the Sunnah. Whoever does it, whether knowingly or unknowingly, is and will be in error. Partaking of music and dancing has been made forbidden by Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam. We explain this point in great detail later in the article with adequate proof.

You may not have intentionally meant to offend in such a way but your execution did offend, degrade and mock the followers of the Sunnah. It degraded the Sunnah to an object of barter for freedom with freedom being the more desirable of the two.

Those lines ‘why didn’t you shave, you could have been free’ are not messages to Muslim people that they should shave. It is not my amendment proposition to the Shariah. It is purely a humorous observation that Osama didn’t seem to try to disguise himself while in hiding. In my mind I’m picturing CIA agent walking past a beardless Osama because he doesn’t recognise him without the beard – hence Osama would get away. It’s just a silly funny picture. Also if Osama did shave is beard at any point to avoid capture, this in my view is not an indictment on him. He may have done so, who knows. He was on the run from the U.S. Remember, we have a very practical religion. Muslims are even allowed to eat the Haraam flesh of swine if one is starving. Are you telling me that it is Haraam to for Osama to disguise himself without a beard to avoid capture? I am not making a comment about the beard as part of the Sunnah. It’s purely a joke about an Osama disguise – and it’s funny because it is an image of Osama that is unusual. Like it’s a funny image to see Helen Zille toing toing. Like me telling you the Dalai Lama has a twitter account (true. I follow him.). It’s a funny image. I doubt many Muslim people with beards, after watching my sketch, are going, ”Let’s get the shaving gel.” Don’t make my joke more than it is.

Perhaps a good re-reading of those lines should be in order.The ‘Why didn’t’ alludes to the fact that it did not happen. Again, an illustration of how you have missed the point completely. The offence is not based on the fact that the parody is centered around Osama bn Laden. We really couldn’t care less whom you decided to base it on. The fact still remains that you used the words, ‘Why didn’t you shave? You could have been free’. In saying, ‘we have a practical religion’ does not excuse the fact that this religion and its strong elements are being mocked, stripped of its dignity and reduced to flippancy for a good laugh!?!

Please go back to the hadeeth regarding the Persian missives and the disgust Nabi SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam showed at the absence of a beard. Islam stresses the keeping of a beard and its practicality arises when we are told exactly how long the beard should and whether or not we may trim the beard. That is the practicality of Islam i.e. its practicality being for the one who chooses to learn, understand and incorporate its practicality to the letter and not just ‘wing-it’ as many of us are prone to do in this day and age.

We hardly have knowledge of the sources of Shari’ah, cannot speak the language of Allah Ta’ala, cannot speak the language of our Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam (whom we claim to be our beloved) and yet we sing the ease and practicality of Islam, a religion most of us have been born into but yet only still know the basics of!?!?

If you or anybody else would like to poke fun at Islam, do so after you have studied your subject matter properly. In this way you are guaranteed not to step on anyone’s toes or offend any…what were those words again…hmmm ahh yes ‘overtly defensive’ Muslims.

As far as having beard in the video goes, I just thought that if I am going to parody an Al Qaeda Internet video, I’m going to dress myself in a manner resembling them.

It was just your unfortunate luck that you chose to parody an organisation whose manner of dress resembled the Sunnah. Again, let me remind you of the fact that we do NOT care which organisation you choose to parody. You may illustrate them in any manner you wish but you CHOSE to bring the Sunnah into it when you copied the Sunnah dress i.e.  the Beard and the Kurta (thowb) for Osama and a burka clad person to illustrate a female voice. Again let me reiterate the implication of your decision to include the illusion of a woman in a burka: How is a woman in a burka related to the parody of Al Qaeda? Sure you may have used it to aesthetically tie in to the song you chose but that has no bearing on Al Qaeda. Therefore your parody is not centered around Al Qaeda only.

Now to the crux…If your parody included a ‘woman’ or the illusion of one by using Simmi then why choose a burka? Prior to this aayah being revealed in the Qur’aan:

Surah Ahzab Verse 59

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُلْ لِأَزْوَاجِكَ وَبَنَاتِكَ وَنِسَاءِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِنْ جَلَابِيبِهِنَّ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدْنَىٰ أَنْ يُعْرَفْنَ فَلَا يُؤْذَيْنَ ۗ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَحِيمًا

The verse clearly states the command for women to cover themselves over and above what they were already using to cover themselves. So how exactly were the women dressing prior to the revelation of this verse? This should have been included in your research prior to making this video and including a man to wear the burka, dancing and singing along in your parody. If your research did not point to the fact that the burka was a salient feature of the dress of the sahaabiyaat prior to the revelation of the aayaah regarding the Jilbaab, your research sorely fell short. You also chose a black burka to further illustrate your parody. Unbeknownst to you, the Sahaabiyaat chose the colour black as in the darkness of the night, they would remain unseen, ‘Ibn Abi Haatim mentions, ‘On the authority of Umm Salmah radhiAllahu anhu, she said, ‘When this verse was revealed (yudneena alayhinna), the women of the Ansaar came out…and upon them were black clothes which they were wearing.”‘

Do bear in mind also that it was by your decision (as you have accepted full responsibility of the video) to allow a man to dress as a woman and let me remind you that according to the hadeeth, a man who imitates a woman is cursed, albeit in jest or otherwise. It is unfortunate that we allow such basic Islamic rules and laws to slide and even more imperative that people point out such things to us prior to commencing such acts in direct contradiction to the Shari’ah. The act becomes more heinous in nature because the ‘shemale’ in question chose to depict a ‘Muslim woman’ dancing and singing in your parody and this is highly reprehensible in terms of the Sunnah and an insult to every Muslim woman who has chosen to wear the burka.

Your reference to Zulu dress makes no sense unless you can prove that the Zulu people are commanded in their religion to dress a certain way. Same goes for the Amish, Jewish, Sikh etc. people. In Islam, men are commanded to lengthen their beards and trim the moustaches (refer back to the ahadeeth). In any event, this excuse does not abscond a person from encouraging or making statements which are contrary to what Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam states that Allah Ta’ala Himself has commanded.

We reiterate that these views are not of our own opinion. We only relay the opinion of the Shari’ah, Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam and in this case, the opinion of Allah Ta’ala Himself. If anybody has any view that is contradictory to this view, you are advised to take it up with your Creator as He commanded it.

Also I need to draw your attention to the fact that Abu Lahab and Abu Jahal may have been wearing something very similar to what I was wearing in the sketch as well. The Quraysh used to bury their daughters alive. They weren’t doing this wearing jeans and t-shirts.

The ‘may’ in your statement illustrates the fact that you’re unsure regarding this. As Muslims, Muslim scholars, students of Deen etc. we do not take our religion from the likes of Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab. We derive our religion from the four sources of Shari’ah as you already may know. It is unfortunate that once again your research may have cut you short…Allow me to elucidate with a few ahadeeth:

Hazrat Umme Salma (RadiAllahu Anha) narrates that Nabi (SallAllahu Alaihi Wasallam) preferred the Kurta over all other types of clothing.

Hazrat Abu Hurairah (RadiAllahu Anhu) reports that Nabi (SallAllahu Alaihi Wasallam) would begin with the right side when wearing his Kurta.

Hazrat Ibn Abbas (RadiAllahu Anhu) reports that lengthwise, the Kurta of Nabi (SallAllahu Alaihi Wasallam) would be above his ankles while the sleeves would reach upto his fingers.

Hazrat Anas (RadiAllahu Anhu) says that the sleeves of the Kurta of Nabi (SallAllahu Alaihi Wasallam) would be upto the wrists.

Shu’ba reports that he met Muhaarib Ibn Dinaar. He was riding a horse on his way to the court for a case. I asked him about this (the above) Hadith? He replied that he had heard Ibn Umar (RadiAllahu Anhu) saying that Nabi (SallAllahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “He who wears excessively long clothes (which flow below the ankles) due to pride, Allah Ta’ala will not look towards him (with mercy) on the day of Judgement.”

These ahadeeth are for your own reference and serve to illustrate the fact that the Kurta or thowb as worn by Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam is NOT a cultural dress as is believed by many Muslims today. It is SUNNAH.

There are numerous examples of the Kurta as worn by the sahaabah radhiAllahu anhum and the Tabieen. The descriptions go into much more detail but the idea is the same. The Kurta worn by Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam is SUNNAH. Therefore a parody used in jest or mockery is done in bad taste when the parody uses a man clad in the Sunnah clothing which is proven beyond a doubt to be SUNNAH.

Your mention of Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab is meaningless since: 1. You are not entirely sure what they did, in fact, actually wear. 2. You have no idea whether their dress was in accordance to the Sunnah (in which case it would still be reprehensible to mock their dress!) or not 3. It was common practise among the Arabs to wear the sleeves over the hands and wear their robes long so that they drag on the floor, hence the prohibition of allowing the trousers or clothing to be worn long 4. It is mentioned in the ahadeeth above that Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam preferred the kurta over all other types of dress. Is it possible that there may have been other types of dress available during that era? Perhaps not a jeans and a t-shirt but you would have to delve deeply into the commentary of this hadeeth and many similar ones to discern the probability and description of other types of clothing worn by the Arab men during the time of Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam.

Again, if you had simply researched the subject matter correctly, you would have come across these glaring facts.

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Having stated the above, I would like to once again say that I was ONLY sending up AL Qaeda. It was in no way my intention to comment, albeit indirectly, on Islam or the Nabi (SAW).

You may not have intended to do so but the illustration of facts preceding this correctly state that you HAVE commented and in  very negative way on the Sunnah of Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam by alluding to his Sunnah in your parody.

The Nikaab was used because in the original Puff Daddy “I’ll be missing you video,” Faith Evans (the Notorious BIG’s wife) sings that part. I couldn’t have used a western female outfit to parody this section. That would have also been criticised as well, and it would have been inaccurate. We decided not to use Parda as I thought people would find that too objectifying. We therefore settled on Burka and I got brother Simmi Areff to play that part because he had the best singing voice.

The use of even a man to portray a woman in a burka was unnecessary and had no bearing to the Al Qaeda themed parody. You were not forced to use or portray a man/woman with a burka and yet you still chose to include it. This already points to the fact that the parody was not only centered around Al Qaeda but had a very strong Muslim undertone to it which is quite understandable since Al Qaeda are Muslims, are they not? Or do they just choose to dress like that for the heck of it? Or is it because those are strong elements of Islamic identity which you have chosen to include in a parody using un-Islamic elements (singing – we’ll get to that, dancing,flippancy to the beard etc.)

If you say ALL forms of music is Haraam, I believe that is a debatable topic. There are numerous Muslim Musicians – Zain Bhika, Sami Yusuf, Yusuf Islam, etc.etc. I am no scholar though, so I’ll accept the fact that you believe playing any form of music is a mockery. I respect your view; although, I do not share your view. Once again, I must say, I’m just being honest about what I truly believe.

Firstly, a view is a view is a view unless you have facts to substantiate or prove your view.  Until then, it remains but a very ill-informed opinion which is a very big problem when you don’t actually have the proof to substantiate what you believe. There is no monopoly on knowledge. We are all free to learn and knowledge regarding Islam is not reserved for any person or group of people. The use of the ‘I’m no scholar’ excuse has ben used too often to excuse the facts that we are not making an adequate effort to actually understand and learn the Deen we so dearly hold close to us.

The fact that there exists numerous musicians (even if there exists a million or a billion), it doesn’t change Shari’ah. Numbers or majority doesn’t influence the swaying of Shari’ah. In the first battle of Islam, the Battle of Badr, the Muslims were in stark minority with the Kuffaar outnumbering the Muslims. Were your analogy to hold, the Muslims would have been in a sore minority and therefore been wrong in their beliefs since there were SO many to outnumber them.

Lastly, these musicians and their actions do not point to permissibility. They are not our God, they are not Ambiyaa, they are not Sahaabah, they are not even Fuqahaa! We do not take our religion, our deen from them. To even mention their names as some sort of validation regarding the permissibility of music is an insult to thousands of fuqahaa who have spent their lives in the pursuit of knowledge and bringing that knowledge to people who do not even bother to gain wisdom from that knowledge. It is a disgrace to mention them in light of the ahadeeth which are available that clearly denounce music.

Abu Umamah radhiAllahu anhu reported that the Messenger of Allah sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam said: “Sell not singing girls,nor buy them,nor train them, and their price is unlawful.” In accordance with this, the following Qur’anic verse was revealed:’And of men there are those who purchase frivolous conversation.”

Jaber RadhiAllahu anhu reported that the Prophet sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam said, ‘ Song generates hypocrisy in the heart as water grows crops.”

Allah Ta’ala says in the Qur’aan: “And, whatever the Messenger present to you,take hold of it. And, whatever he forbids you, abstain(from it).”

Said the Messenger of Allah sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam: “Verily Allah Ta’ala sent me as a mercy and as a guide unto the worlds. And Allah Azza Wa Jal commanded me with the destruction of musical instrument.”

Said the Messenger of Allah sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam with regard to the signs of the Hour: “And, singing girls and musical instruments will become plentiful.”

Said the Messenger of Allah sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam: “And, there is not a man who raises his voice with singing, but Allah sends two devils – one on either side of him (the singer). Both these devils strike their feet (dancing) until such time that he (singer) maintains silence.”

“Rasulullah sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam prohibited two stupid voices – i) the voice of one who cries aloud in funerals, and ii) the voice of a singer.”

“People in my Ummah will consume alcohol and give it some other name. And, musical instruments and singing girls will be performing to them – Allah will curse the earth to swallow them an, of them He will transform into apes and pigs.”

“Rasulullah sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam forbade the price of dogs and the income derived by a flute”

In a discussion with the Sahaabah radhiAllahu anhum , Rasulullah sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam said about singing and music:- “Listening to singing and music is sin; and sitting at it is Fisq (Rebellion); and to derive pleasure from it is an act of Kufr.”

Safwaan Ibn Umayyah radhiAllahu anhu says:”We were with the Messenger of Allah (sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam) when Amr Bin Qurrah came to the Messenger (sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam). Amr Bin Qurrah said, “O Messenger of Allah!, verily Allah has decreed misfortune for me. I am of the opinion that my sustenance or food is in my Daf (drum) which I beat with my own hand. Therefore grant me permission with regard to singing which does not contain any evil (or songs which are not bad). Rasulullah (sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam) said:

“I do not give you permission fo it. In my sight you have no respect nor am I happy to meet you. O Enemy of Allah! You are speaking a lie. Allah Ta’ala has ordained Halaal Rizq for you, but you have chosen what Allah has made Haram for you. If before this I had forbidden it then I would have definitely punished you. Begone from me and repent. Now hear: After I have warned you if you again indulge in it (music and singing), I will beat you painfully and spoil your looks by shaving your hair; and I will have you ejected from your family; and give the youth of Medina permission to loot your property.”

Hearing this Amr Bin Qurrah left. Allah alone knows the state of extreme shame and disgrace n which he departed. When he left, Rasulullah said: These people are the disobedient ones…”

I think there’s a bit of miscommunication here. Obviously I see a link.

The Al Qaeda members are Muslims after all. Of course there would be a LINK. But saying there’s a link and saying that because of that link, I’m indirectly parodying the other is not fair. There are links between many things, but it does not mean that the linked item can be interchanged with the other. If a table has four legs and an Arabian Stallion has four legs, it does not mean an Arabian Stallion is a table.

The link can be plainly seen by the fact that the Sunnah elements are highlighted in your video. Whether this was unavoidable or not is not the issue. Mockery, jest or anything leading to the flippancy of the Sunnah can and should be avoided. Sunnah dress is not an abstract theory. There is a definitive description of the actual Sunnah dress of Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam. If the Sunnah dress is the same dress used by a specific organisation, it does not void the fact that it is a Sunnah and will remain a Sunnah. The same goes for a beard as detailed and described in the Sunnah. It will remain a Sunnah and mockery of the beard which conforms to the Sunnah is still a mockery of the Sunnah.For more on the topic, please consult Sunan At Tirmidhi.

I do not understand. You are saying that if anyone is dressed like the Nabi (SAW), he is seen to indirectly be the Nabi (SAW). You say because I’m parodying Osama, I am parodying the Nabi(SAW). So, by that logic, if an uncle wearing Sunnah garb starts swearing at another uncle during Ramadaan, I cannot criticize him because if I criticize him I am indirectly criticizing the prophet because he is wearing the same outfit as the prophet. This is what I understand by your argument. Please clarify if I am mistaken.

The criticism of what was done is not focused on Osama bin Laden or Al Qaeda alone. The criticism is centered around the use of wholly Islamic elements and the flippancy, mockery and jest thereof. You are parodying the SUNNAH by using clear SUNNAH elements in your parody and making stark references to these elements in jest. I hope you understand the difference between what you have inferred and the actual implication.

Using the Sunnah dress and a beard with a she-male in a burkha together with singing,dancing, rap etc. is a clear mockery of the Sunnah elements you chose to include in your parody.

Once again I’d like to state that I’m not ‘reaching a laughable conclusion’ as you put it. With that statement I’m just explaining that it was in no way my intention nor did I ever dream that people would say I meant to insult the Nabi (SAW).

I am not qualified to respond with Shariah proof, I therefore accept all the ‘Valid, authentic, authoritative, academic Shariah proof’ that you brought into the discussion. It’s not necessary to add any more Shariah proof. I accept everything that you have brought with love.

I am only responding to the conclusions that you draw with honesty and a need for greater understanding.

My final point I’d like to state is that you aim to be defenders of the Shariah and by implication the Sunnah, yet your entire essay is steeped in arrogance, and filled with demeaning little jibes with no intention but to belittle me. It is not written with the intention to come to a greater understanding between Muslim brothers and sisters. It is written with an air of superiority with no wish to understand where I am coming from and to advise a change in my behaviour. You have made up your mind about me without even communicating with me. You claim to be defenders of the Sunnah yet your entire piece was the opposite of humility, which I believe was a cornerstone of the character of the Nabi (SAW). I don’t need to requote the numerous unnecessary arrogant statements. You know where they are. The closest to the Nabi(SAW) are those who are close to his character. I’m not going to make a judgement on you as a person, but if your personal character is similar to the character displayed in your piece, I’m not sure that you should be the ones charged with defending the Shariah. I say this with respect and a yearning to be shown otherwise.

If you wish to – as you put it – “take me on a short journey of learning” in further notes, I welcome it.

However, since you are the defenders of the Sunnah and Shariah, please do so in the manner worthy of the Nabi (SAW) or more specifically how you said – [That’s sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam by the way].

May the Almighty grant us all greater understanding and learned people who are interested in actually building the Umma of the Nabi Mugammad sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, Inshallah.

Best Regards

Dr Riaad Moosa

It is most unfortunate when there is even a need to have somebody defend the Shari’ah, especially to defend it to Muslims themselves! It is even more unfortunate when Muslims are now moving to defend such heinous actions against the Sunnah all in the name of a good laugh. Degradation of society? I would hope so rather than a degradation of love, respect and acknowledgment of the Sunnah – all of which seem to have fallen by the wayside.

On acknowledgment of the parody, we had definitely taken great offense and rightly so to the flippant attitude alluded to the Sunnah in your parody. Our aim is to prevent degradation of the Sunnah and the Shari’ah. Our allegiances lie with Allah Ta’ala alone and the aim is to protect the Deen and keep it in its Pristine and authentic form. We do not support watered down forms of Islam to appease the public. We believe in a stern, straight-forward approach as that adopted by Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam.

If there is anybody who disagrees with the ahadeeth quoted, the fatawa alluded to, this is not our own opinion. This is the opinion of the pristine Shari’ah and you are free to take up your disagreements with those reponsible for formulating the Shari’ah or alternatively, your Creator.

Sincerely,

Muslimality

فليقولوا ما يقولوا انت من ارجو رضاه
Let them say what they want to say, it is Your (Allah’s) Pleasure that I seek…

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Comments
  1. Riaad Moosa says:

    I apologise for whatever hurt I have caused and sincerely make Tauba if I have offended anybody.

    • Muslimah says:

      We must outline that it was never our intention to exact an apology from yourself or any other individual. We are merely pointing out the view of the Shari’ah. We would also advise that offending the creation pales into insignificance when one compares it to any offence caused to the Creator. The one who repents to Allah from any crime sincerely is like the one who has not committed the crime in the first place.

      If you are wondering why we are still responding to comments on this article, it is because of the MANY individuals who feel it is their responsibility to speak and claim responsibility for your actions, albeit without evidence to back up their claims.

  2. Yacoob says:

    Assalaamulaikum brothers and sisters in Islam,

    I whole heartedly agree with the above, Mr Moosa has been doing his comedy shows for a while now and he has used the Muslim Umah in all his jokes and mockery.
    A question from me is he being backed by a third force in his jokes to make a mockery of our religion or is this for wealth gain? it cannot be to make the public laugh as he is taking this too far, for us to laugh at.
    I have read all his responses and the video he published which he apologises furiously and takes blame for his actions, but did he once mention that he will stop this action of mocking the Islamic religion, have you noticed any of his counterparts mocking theirs or are they using him to make money.

    His latest movie soon to be released, does he once again use Islam as a mockery and hope that the Muslim Umah will be sitting ducks, laugh at his stupid jokes, whilst he rakes in money at the compromise and expense of our religion?

    I also notice many people justyifying his actions, are they his PR and crooneys that are trying to justify his actions, also note many are non muslims.
    Does Islam teach us to mock the dead, whether Muslim or not? come on people, are we becoming so westernised that we and forgetting our religious obligations and take everything as a joke?

    Shukran and duas
    Yacoob

    • Muslimah says:

      We have no problem with anyone justifying their actions…as long as they some simple, textual evidence from the Shari’ah in support of their actions.

  3. Muslimah 786 says:

    I think you have too much time on your hands.
    There are much more important issues to worry about than something that was not such a huge issue.
    And before your put all of us in one boat, I know a few ulama and tablighi jamaat members who thought it was amusing, and didn’t think it was such a great big deal that you have made it out to be.

    On a judgmental note, (yeah I said it, since you’re judging most people), why are you watching TV anyway? Isn’t it haraam?
    Quit judging people and being so self righteous. It seems like you just want to point people out as being heathens than trying to explain things in a gentle manner. Our Nabi S.A.W was not rude and self righteous! Look at the tone you have come across in this blog. This is why most youth of today turn away from the beauty of Islam as everything is portrayed in such a negative light. I love my deen, but waalahi, sometimes when people are so constrained and so hard hearted and negative, I sometimes wonder if we follow the same path.

    May Allah grant you a gentler heart and mind for speaking out.

    Allah knows best

    • Muslimah says:

      Let’s keep this simple: Whilst we focus on the smaller issues, please devote YOUR time towards focusing on the bigger issues (whatever these may be in your opinion).

      Once again, if there is clear, Shar’i evidence of ANY errors in any statement made by Muslimality, please do notify us together with substantiating evidence.

      “I know a few ulama and tablighi jamaat members who thought it was amusing, and didn’t think it was such a great big deal that you have made it out to be.” <—- Ulama and Tablighi Jammat members or any other individual for that matter including you(shocking, I know) are NOT qualified to legislate the Shari'ah. Your ludicrous assertion that Ulama or Tablighi Jamaat members not seeing a problem with the parody infers that we take our Deen from them. On the contrary, they are not the sources of Shari'ah.

      Please explain where we have stated that we have WATCHED tv. Secondly, if you cannot provide us with a clear statement by ourselves that we have watched TV, your statement is mere slander and we would be wasting our time even beginning to respond to it.

      We cannot see what is academically wrong with our statements from your comment. Since when is it our responsibility to appease the youth? If the youth are educated about Shari'ah and it is every individual's responsibility to SEEK knowledge, they would see for themselves what the Shar'i opinion on such matters is. The social problems of youth are irrelevant to this discussion.

  4. nawaal says:

    slms all
    I think that Riyaad Moosa is an honest guy. He may have overstepped it this time, but because of the environment he is constantly in, he probably cant see what you are saying. As for his statements about you, I agree with him, this couldve been dealt with in a better manner, it is surley not the sunnah way to lead someone to righteousness, and Allah knows best.

    ~ We beg to differ on the Sunnah way, however we are not faultless as we are not Ma’soom. Kindly provide us with a detailed analysis of the Sunnah method of responding in such an instance as practised by Nabi SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam and the Sahaabah radhiAllahu anhum

  5. mahmood says:

    “We do not support watered down forms of Islam to appease the public. We believe in a stern, straight-forward approach as that adopted by Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam”
    I would really like if you cite any incident in which nabi saw adopted such an approach

    ~ There are many numerous examples recorded in the books of hadeeth. Perhaps the most common being when Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam said ‘Ameen’ in confirmation of the curse on one who does not send durood after hearing the name of Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam being uttered.

    A blog post will Insha Allah be written to highlight what may be construed ‘extremism’ in the Sunnah. – Muslimality comment in italics

    • Muslimah 786 says:

      Satire, Parody, etc. is lost on you. Lost on you.

      Btw, did you know that in times of war that it is ja’iz to remove a beard?
      Oh yeah, and that I got from an aalim that was educated under Moulana Abdul Hamid in Azaadville.

      You are a person who can’t handle any level of criticism, yet feel free to fling at everyone.
      I know that you deleted my comment.
      Which means you’re scared of any persons opinions.

      It’s a shame as you feel self righteous all the time and refuse to be kind and less harsh.
      It’s ok to be right, but it’s not ok to be arrogant and nasty to others.
      Your overall tone in this blog leaves much to be desired for someone who wants to portray Islam and it’s beauty.

      ~ When one fears for one’s life and has great certainty that the shaving of the beard will lead to saving one’s life in times of war etc. it is permitted BUT NOT ADVISED. Secondly, Osama Bin Laden placed himself into a situation of war. How would a man who gave up his wealth, home etc. to live in obscurity be ‘scared’ of giving his life and so doing, shave his beard? The law you refer to is for civilians and not for those who CHOOSE to enter the field of Jihad. If you choose to enter the field of Jihad but are scared of losing your life, you are in the wrong field. This principle is clearly outlined in the books of the Mufassireen and the Muhadditheen and the Fuqahaa. Whilst we have utmost respect for every scholar, we prefer to base our Deen on EVIDENCE rather than EMINENCE. Neither is Ml Abdul Hamid nor Osama Bin Laden the legislator of Shari’ah nor are we bound to accept any scholar’s statements without valid, academic proof.

      The scholar who has explained the issue to you has only explained one half of the matter.

      By the way, since seeing that our time is not dedicated solely to the purposes of publishing comments, your comment as you call it is in the queue and has not been moderated as yet.

  6. mahmood says:

    Using wisdom and strategy in tabligh and dawah is the way of prophets

    1) In matters relating to carrying the call of truth to people and seeking reform among them being universally rigid or universally lenient is not the appropriate. the correct approach is to understand that each of these has an occasion and limit . Should common people be involved in an error of judgement or, which they do not realize as such, then ,the alim or muballigh would do well to avoid taking the hard line, rigid or excessive or dogmatic and try to find a better way to remove doubts
    2) The second guidance concern the in which truth has to be presented the example is that sayyidna ibrahim AS did not address his people directly asking them to do what had to be done. rather than saying something in the mode of an order, he simply told them about how felt in the matter of them worshipping idols ,he rather told them he turned th the Being that is the creator nurturer and caretaker of all these things . Of course the purpose was to bring them to do the same. .but, in his wise way, he abstained from direct address lest they become totally uncompromising by opposing the suggestion just for the sake of opposition !

    ~ We have never claimed to be making Tabligh or Dawah. Expressing anger for the sake of Allah Ta’ala is however a practise of ALL the prophets. Once again, we have very little time to work through emotional issues. If there is anything wrong from the point of the Shari’ah with what we have stated, supply us with clear, textual evidence and not only will we remove the offending text but issue an unconditional apology to all that may be affected. We have stated this very clearly time and time again. It is appreciated that persons take heed the first time.

    Your perception of the correct approach is open to debate just like everybody else’s perception. We prefer the perception of the Shari’ah.

    Once again, we cannot be bothered by rantings which have no Shar’i basis.

  7. Muhammad says:

    Jazakallah for your efforts.

    However, I cannot take you seriously if you remain anonymous and unidentified. There is no justifiable reason for anonymity in this regard unless you do not have complete conviction in your assessments and opinions. That is ALL they are because we all know that Allah SWT knows best. As such, the arrogance and flagrant disregard you show in many of the responses and comments take away from your good intentions. Loving each other for the sake of Allah SWT is as important at protecting this deen for the sake of Allah SWT.

    With regard to brother Riaad, Alhamdullilah, he has apologised. There is much that we can learn from other religions and their followers.The Jewish population would NEVER let their dirty laundry hang for all to see. NEVER. Whilst they clearly must have problems, we never know it. That is a testament to their unity, maturity of understanding social etiquettes and mechanisms, and clarity of focus. We should be setting the example in this regard.

    I look forward to you disclosing your identities. May Allah SWT grant you the courage, and the maturity to approach the Muslim Ummah as your brothers and sisters irrespective of our weaknesses and imperfections.

    • Muslimah says:

      We are not asking for anybody to take us seriously. However, you are advised to take the Shari’ah more seriously as that would be much more beneficial to you. Unless the anonymity is impacting on the authenticity or academic relevance of the subject matter, your request for such details is totally irrelevant since you cannot disprove any of the Shar’i evidence we bring to the fore.

      In response to the ending of your first paragraph, kindly dedicate some time to studying the issue of anger for the sake of Allah Ta’ala.

      We do not measure the condition of our society against the benchmark of Jews. We measure it against the benchmark of Qur’aan. Do however, provide me with the details of any Jewish comedian going on prime time TV and mocking not only the Jewish religious dressing but flagrantly disobeying clear-cut prohibitions of religion and I will respond further.

      “When the two messengers of Kisra (Khusru – the Persian King) came to Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, they had long moustaches and shaved beards. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam turned his face away in disgust and asked them, ‘Who commanded you to do this (despicable deed)?’ They replied, ‘Our Lord, (i.e. King)’ At this, Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam mentioned, ‘But my Lord has commanded me to lengthen my beard and shorten my moustache.’ (Tabaqaat ibn Sa’ad vol.1 pg.147; Taareekh Tabari vol.2 pg.267-266; Bidaaya wan Nihaaya)”

      “And if you ask them, they will say,
      “We were just chatting and having
      fun.” Say, “Is it of Allah and His
      verses and His Messenger that you
      were making fun?”Make no excuses. You became
      disbelievers (by mocking at Allah and
      His Messenger) after you had
      professed Faith.” – Al Qur’aan

      فليقولوا ما يقولوا انت من ارجو رضاه

  8. Muhammed Kaka says:

    I found Riyad Moosa’s video to be a parody/ joke and nothing more. It did not offend me as a practicing, bearded muslim in any way.

    Most of what Muslima says in a judgemental and insulting tone, i read no desire to educate but rather to humiliate.

    Muslima , you should have contacted Riyad Moosa directly and privately, rather than insulting him openly. All you have achieved is division and disunity.

    Lastly, as much as you deny it, it is clear that you hold Osama bin Laden in high regard, and that is what most of this stems from.

    • Muslimah says:

      Please disprove the following and we will gladly discuss the matter further:

      “When the two messengers of Kisra (Khusru – the Persian King) came to Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, they had long moustaches and shaved beards. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam turned his face away in disgust and asked them, ‘Who commanded you to do this (despicable deed)?’ They replied, ‘Our Lord, (i.e. King)’ At this, Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam mentioned, ‘But my Lord has commanded me to lengthen my beard and shorten my moustache.’ (Tabaqaat ibn Sa’ad vol.1 pg.147; Taareekh Tabari vol.2 pg.267-266; Bidaaya wan Nihaaya)”

      What is the status of he who in jest advises one to go against the command of Allah Ta’ala? Do you feel this to be jest only? Please turn your attention to the following aayaah:

      “And if you ask them, they will say,
      “We were just chatting and having
      fun.” Say, “Is it of Allah and His
      verses and His Messenger that you
      were making fun?”Make no excuses. You became
      disbelievers (by mocking at Allah and
      His Messenger) after you had
      professed Faith.” – Al Qur’aan

      We are not interested in your inferences of the aayaah or what you think it means. You are advised to approach the books of Tafseer for an in-depth explanation of the aayaah and then may expound further on why you think that a parody involving a flippant attitude is a ‘joke’ and nothing more. Let’s keep this academic, shall we?

      Our allegiances lie with the Nabi sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam and the Lord of the Worlds, Allah Ta’ala. We do not Osama Bin Laden personally, we are unaware of his intentions, have no evidence of his innocence or lack thereof. As ALL Muslims should be, we are only interested in the defence of the Shari’ah but you are free to reach your own conclusions as you see fit.

      فليقولوا ما يقولوا انت من ارجو رضاه

  9. I would personally like to know what your qualifications are in giving fatwas, who is your religious scholar that you follow. I find it a bit strange to blindly follow someone strong opinion on shariah without know what their background is, what their qualifications are and who their teachers are. could you please let us know this information JazakAllah

    • Muslimah says:

      Please point out to us where we have stated this to be a ‘fatwa’ and we will then comment further. You do not need to blindly follow anybody. There is no monopoly on Islamic knowledge, you have intellect which allows you to take the statements we make and submit them to any scholar you deem authentic and submit back to us their academic objections. We have always welcomed ACADEMIC submissions.

      You are also advised to make an effort to learn authentic Islamic knowledge yourself as the doors of teaching are not closed to anyone and then submit such statements to your own knowledge of Islamic matters and or the intricacies of Shari’ah. In fact, we encourage such behaviour!

  10. Khadeeja says:

    People who hide behind the veil of anonymity are no more than cowards. If you are so proudly the bastion of “truth” why not declare yourself openly? I find it so amusing that you have taken it upon yourself you make the opinion’s of God known to all of us mere mortals. If only we realised that your interpretation (and yes, it is an interpretation- no matter the arsenal of hadith you plan to use as substantiation’) is the holy grail and means to salvation. I admire your certainty of God’s plan for each of us. Man, if only we hadn’t been created as diverse. A glitch in the matrix? I think not.

    • Muslimah says:

      We have not claimed to be the ‘bastions of truth’ and your definition of a coward leaves much to be desired. As an aside, what bearing does our identification have on the academic proofs of the Shari’ah which we have mentioned? Your comment is both meaningless and inane.

  11. Khadeeja says:

    The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, “Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to excellence and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and gain strength by worshipping in the mornings, the nights.” [Bukhari, Volume 1 Book 2 Number 38]

    ~Hadhrat Abu Hurairah (Radhiyallaho anho) narrated that Rasulullah (SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM) has said, “Almighty Allah says, I treat my slave (man) according to his expectations from Me, and I am with him when he remembers Me. If he remembers Me in his heart, I remember him in My heart; if he remembers Me in a gathering, I remember him in a better and nobler gathering (i.e. of angels). If he comes closer to Me by one span, I go towards him a cubit’s length, if he comes towards Me by a cubit’s length, I go towards him an arm’s length, and if he walks towards Me, I run unto him.”

    “Let not the deceiver (the Satan) beguile you in regard to Allah” i.e. one should not be misled by the devil to commit sins just because Allah is the most Merciful and the Forgiver”.

    A Sahabi once said, “0, Rasulullah, (SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM), I know that the commandments of Sharee-at are many, but of these tell me the one that I may practice assiduously throughout my life.” The Prophet, (SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM), replied, “Keep your tongue always moist (i.e. busy) with the zikr of Allah.” According to another Hadith, Harat Mu’aaz (Radhiyal-laho anho) has said, “Once at the time of my departure from Rasulullah (Sallallahu ALAIHI WASALLAM), I asked him to advise me of that action which is most pleasing to Almighty Allah: whereupon he replied, “At the time of your death, your tongue should be busy with zikr of Almighty Allah.”

  12. Khadeeja says:

    “It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing.” [Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 1011]

    Don’t be as hypocritical as to preach anger and condemnation as the way of Islam. the essence is one of peace and mercy. it is appalling that you have taken it upon yourself to strip this ethos away.

    • Muslimah says:

      Hadhrat Abu Hurairah (Radhiyallaho anho) narrated that Rasulullah (SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM) has said, “Almighty Allah says, I treat my slave (man) according to his expectations from Me, and I am with him when he remembers Me. If he remembers Me in his heart, I remember him in My heart; if he remembers Me in a gathering, I remember him in a better and nobler gathering (i.e. of angels). If he comes closer to Me by one span, I go towards him a cubit’s length, if he comes towards Me by a cubit’s length, I go towards him an arm’s length, and if he walks towards Me, I run unto him.”

      “Let not the deceiver (the Satan) beguile you in regard to Allah” i.e. one should not be misled by the devil to commit sins just because Allah is the most Merciful and the Forgiver”.

      A Sahabi once said, “0, Rasulullah, (SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM), I know that the commandments of Sharee-at are many, but of these tell me the one that I may practice assiduously throughout my life.” The Prophet, (SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM), replied, “Keep your tongue always moist (i.e. busy) with the zikr of Allah.” According to another Hadith, Harat Mu’aaz (Radhiyal-laho anho) has said, “Once at the time of my departure from Rasulullah (Sallallahu ALAIHI WASALLAM), I asked him to advise me of that action which is most pleasing to Almighty Allah: whereupon he replied, “At the time of your death, your tongue should be busy with zikr of Almighty Allah.”